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mcalvi · 2009-08-24 13:28:46

Any idea on why the video portion is failing on approx 5k of our systems?

Free Disk Space Check Free Disk Space OK
Memory Check System Memory OK.
Processor Speed Check Processor Speed OK
Video Card Memory Check Video RAM OK
Singular expression refers to non-unique object.

Last edited by mcalvi (2009-08-24 13:29:49)

Ben Kus · 2009-08-24 23:29:56

What is the property name/relevance that gives you that error?

Ben

mcalvi · 2009-08-25 05:33:52

The property name is
Video Card Memory Check

the relevance is
(if (it < 128) then ("Insufficient Video Memory. Video Memory in MB: " & (it as string)) else ("Video RAM OK")) of ((numeric value of (first match (regex "\d+$") of it) of ((select "adapterram from Win32_VideoController" of wmi) as string)) / 1048576)

Last edited by mcalvi (2009-08-25 05:34:32)

noah · 2009-08-25 10:08:24

On the machines that are failing: is there more than one "adapterram"? My laptop requires me to use "selects" instead of "select" with that WMI query as there are two adapterram results.

mcalvi · 2009-08-26 05:40:36

the relevance debugger gives me the following.

q: (select "adapterram from Win32_VideoController" of wmi)
A: AdapterRAM=1824163840
E: Singular expression refers to non-unique object.

q: (selects "adapterram from Win32_VideoController" of wmi)
A: AdapterRAM=1824163840
A: AdapterRAM

q: (if (it < 128) then ("Insufficient Video Memory. Video Memory in MB: " & (it as string)) else ("Video RAM OK")) of ((numeric value of (first match (regex "\d+$") of it) of ((select "adapterram from Win32_VideoController" of wmi) as string)) / 1048576)
A: Video RAM OK
E: Singular expression refers to non-unique object.

q: (if (it < 128) then ("Insufficient Video Memory. Video Memory in MB: " & (it as string)) else ("Video RAM OK")) of ((numeric value of (first match (regex "\d+$") of it) of ((selects "adapterram from Win32_VideoController" of wmi) as string)) / 1048576)
A: Video RAM OK
E: Singular expression refers to nonexistent object.

noah · 2009-08-26 09:48:04

You can use:

"integer values of selects..." instead of just "selects..."

That will work in the case where there are two adapterrram results but only one has a value associated with it. If you have boxes that return multiple apaaterram values it will probably not work.

mcalvi · 2009-08-26 13:48:06

will it work for systems with one value as well?

Ben Kus · 2009-08-26 19:32:36

Yes.

intrepdmind · 2009-11-05 13:41:48

Any more updates in this thread? Even using "integer values of selects" I still receive:

<multiple results; error>

Debugger on every one (sample >25) of these machines returning this value report:

q:(if (it < 128) then ("Insufficient. Video Memory in MB: " & (it as string)) else ("Video RAM OK")) of ((numeric value of (first match (regex "\d+$") of it) of ((integer values of selects "adapterram from Win32_VideoController" of wmi) as string)) / 1048576)
A:"Video RAM OK"
E:"Singular expression refers to a non-unique object"

OR

q:(if (it < 128) then ("Insufficient. Video Memory in MB: " & (it as string)) else ("Video RAM OK")) of ((numeric value of (first match (regex "\d+$") of it) of ((selects "adapterram from Win32_VideoController" of wmi) as string)) / 1048576)
A:"Video RAM OK"
E:"Singular expression refers to a non-unique object"

OR

q:(if (it < 128) then ("Insufficient. Video Memory in MB: " & (it as string)) else ("Video RAM OK")) of ((numeric value of (first match (regex "\d+$") of it) of ((select "adapterram from Win32_VideoController" of wmi) as string)) / 1048576)
A:"Video RAM OK"
E:"Singular expression refers to a non-unique object"

Any help would be fantastic!

Ben Kus · 2009-11-05 15:37:30

It needed a little work ("numeric value" --> "numeric values" and moving the division to a different place in the expression)... Try this:

q:(if (it / 1048576 < 128) then ("Insufficient. Video Memory in MB: " & (it as string)) else ("Video RAM OK")) of ((numeric values of (first match (regex "\d+$") of it) of ((integer values of selects "adapterram from Win32_VideoController" of wmi) as string)) )

Ben

intrepdmind · 2009-11-06 14:23:04

Ben,

Thanks for taking a look! I'll give it a try and post results.

intrepdmind · 2009-11-06 14:34:27

Ben,

The relevance actually works a lot better, however now im seeing:

<multiple results>
or
<none> (these didn't exist before)

on several machines. When hovering my mouse over the "<multiple results>" objects, I get:
Video RAM OK
Video RAM OK

if I hover over the "<none>" entries, there are no results.

Again, thanks so much for your help. A lot of this is out of my league.

Shlomi · 2010-06-16 04:33:40

Hi,

regarding CPU:

the check suggested here is set to x GHz speed (i set it to 2.4 GHz) - however, this is not accurate enough, especially with laptops.
for example, this analysis gave the result that a 6-month old Lenovo T61 thinkpad is not eligible, since its CPU speed is only 2400 MHz.
However, the full CPU name is "2400 MHz Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz", which is a pretty new one...
this also goes for several PC types - for example, a HP DX2400 desktop, which is about 1 year old, also failed the eligibility test (E2160 Core 2 1.8GHZ) - and this one is Vista ready...
this is without even going into AMD CPU's...
i am thinking that MHz speed is not enough to evaluate CPU's.
can anyone think of a better way to evaluate CPU eligibility?

thanks,

Shlomi

JackCoates · 2010-06-16 06:40:51

I think this bug was fixed in the labs version: http://support.bigfix.com/labs/win7assessment.html
I also like using system age as a control:

Code:

(date (local time zone) of now - (month (first 2 of it as integer) & day_of_month (first 2 of last 5 of it) & year (last 2 of it as integer + 2000)) of (if (exist key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\Description\System\" of native registry and exist value "SystemBiosDate" of key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\Description\System\" of native registry) then value "SystemBiosDate" of key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\Description\System\" of native registry as string else "") )

Last edited by JackCoates (2010-06-16 06:42:46)

Shlomi · 2010-06-16 07:33:01

this certainly looks useful!
thanks, ill take a look.

Shlomi · 2010-06-16 08:23:19

the CPU check is almost exactly the same as the "Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis", so a bit of disappointment there...
there seems to be many CPU brands / types (Core 2 / Core 2 Dou / Core 2 Quad / i3 / i5 / i7 / various AMD CPU's etc.) that pure CPU speed is not enough for eligibility analysis.
this is without taking into account the "Windows 7 XP mode"...
from what i could find, there is a list posted at Tom's Hardware that list Intel CPU's supported by Windows 7, and which also support XP mode:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/window … ,7709.html
but, for the life of me, i cant figure out a way to include this info in the hardware analysis...
with 4000+ computers, going through all computers one by one and figuring which one is too old and which one only has core speed below 2400 MHz (but has 4 cores, for example) seems a bit tedious...
there seems to be no way but to include the CPU name and manually filter out all of the newer CPU's with speed <1800 (or so).
another way may be a totally different approach - look at the total disk size, this will give a rough estimate of the computer age (for laptops <80 GB and for desktops <160 GB - probably too old)
what do you guys think?

Ben Kus · 2010-06-16 21:31:27

Hi Shlomi,

Do you think your problem is related to this?
http://support.bigfix.com/cgi-bin/kbdirect.pl?id=351

Ben

JackCoates · 2010-06-20 14:27:02

Hi Shlomi,

that's why I posted the system age relevance, so you can just use motherboard age to make the decision. For instance, if your hardware refresh cycle is 3 years, you can remove anything older than 1095 days from the upgrade list.

Shlomi · 2010-06-30 00:05:06

Hi Jack,

this is what i am looking for - but i cant find the "system age" relevance anywhere... can you give me a pointer?

JackCoates · 2010-06-30 07:20:06

Hi Shlomi,

Here's an export of my property. Save it as a text file named system-age.bes and import it into your console.

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<BES xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="BES.xsd">
    <Analysis>
        <Title>System Age</Title>
        <Description><![CDATA[<TABLE>

<TBODY>

<TR>

<TD><FONT size=2>

<P><BR>This analysis uses BIOS date to show the age of systems in your environment. It is limited to Windows OS.</FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>]]></Description>
        <Relevance>(if( name of operating system starts with "Win" ) then platform id of operating system != 3 else true)</Relevance>
        <MIMEField>
            <Name>x-fixlet-modification-time</Name>
            <Value>Wed, 05 May 2010 23:58:56 +0000</Value>
        </MIMEField>
        <Domain>BESC</Domain>
        <Property Name="System Age" ID="5"><![CDATA[(date (local time zone) of now - (month (first 2 of it as integer) & day_of_month (first 2 of last 5 of it) & year (last 2 of it as integer + 2000)) of (if (exist key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\Description\System\" of native registry and exist value "SystemBiosDate" of key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\Description\System\" of native registry) then value "SystemBiosDate" of key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\Description\System\" of native registry as string else "") )]]></Property>
    </Analysis>
</BES>

Last edited by JackCoates (2010-06-30 08:50:50)

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#1 2009-08-24 13:28:46

Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

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Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

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Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#4 2009-08-25 10:08:24

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

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Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#6 2009-08-26 09:48:04

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#7 2009-08-26 13:48:06

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#8 2009-08-26 19:32:36

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

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Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

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Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#11 2009-11-06 14:23:04

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#12 2009-11-06 14:34:27

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#13 2010-06-16 04:33:40

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#14 2010-06-16 06:40:51

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

Code:

#15 2010-06-16 07:33:01

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#16 2010-06-16 08:23:19

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#17 2010-06-16 21:31:27

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#18 2010-06-20 14:27:02

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

#19 2010-06-30 00:05:06

Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

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Re: Windows 7 Eligibility Information Analysis

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